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Should the Browns trade up for Bradford?

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The latest rumor on the draft boards is that the Browns are negotiating with the Rams to get the #1 pick. It seems that GM Tom Heckard and his team were reportedly suggesting the deal to management. Holmgren put a wet towel on the talk and said today that the cost is just too high. But that doesn’t mean it is totally off the table but may be just under the table cloth. There are several issues here and we will look at all of them.

The Browns considerations for doing the deal:

  1. There is no question that the team needs a QB. Delhomme is not the long term answer and may not be a short term answer unless he quits throwing the ball to the other team. There are not any NFL starting quality QBs on the roster now. They could use Bradford.
  2. The deal would give the fans some hope. That is something that they have not had in a long time. There was a small percentage of the fans that were excited about the hire of Mangini but that did not turn out well. Most were more excited about the signing of Holmgren. He at least had a good track record as a coach. But he is not the Browns’ coach–he is the Czar. He had those same responsibilities at Seattle but was stripped of the GM duties after a less than stellar series of drafts. I have detailed those choices here before.

  3. If they are going to get the #1 pick the best time to do that is in a non-capped year. There is no cap hit for the guaranteed money in 2010. However, they will have to structure his deal in a way to reduce the hit in future years because there will be a cap with any new CBA. DeMaurice Smith and the NFLPA will demand it and any 2010 signing bonus will be spread over the future years.

  4. Holmgren is not getting any younger and he has maybe 5 more years to turn this franchise around. The existing QBs on the team are not going to do that. A new one is needed and it must be a can’t miss guy. Holmgren has only one bite at the apple in terms of bringing in a QB to become the face of the franchise.

The Browns considerations for not doing the deal:

  1. The cost in terms of draft choices is high particularly to a team that needs so much help in so many areas. The question is how much better would the team be with Bradford vs having Colt McCoy plus 2 other top players?
  • Bradford is not likely to start in the first half of 10 even if he is the first pick. If the team stays at 7 and 38, they should get 2 instant starters unless one pick is another QB. They need so much that 2 starters this year could make a big difference.

  • The Rams considerations for doing the deal:

    1. With the ownership up in the air due to a possible sale of the team, two high first round picks next year could add value to the team.
  • Trading down this year could save the franchise some money. Given the fact that there may be no games next year, that is important.

  • The Rams considerations for not doing the deal:

    1. While a pair of high picks next year is nice, the team would be a lot more valuable with anyone that can spell the word quarterback. At this point, there is not someone like that on the roster. Bradford is a draw and would renew fan interest in the team. Unless this team can rekindle fan interest, it could end up back in LA soon.
  • The risk of trading away a Payton Manning is huge. If they do the deal and Bradford turns out to be a future all pro, the fans in St. Louis will never forgive the team. The Browns know all about trading potential franchise QBs–they traded away 2 of them last year alone.

  • The bottom line:

    I don’t think the deal will happen. The Browns could back out but it is just as likely that the Rams will want to keep the pick and take Bradford.

    That’s what I think. Tell me what you think.

    Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He is a senior writer for and edits https://fryingpansports.com. He is a regular contributor on Cleveland Sports Radio http://www.sportstalkcleveland.com/ Monday afternoons at 1 Eastern. He has also published several novels on

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    Tuesday Morning QB on a Thursday night.

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    After 5 games there are two kinds of teams—The quick and the dead. The quick are off to a fast start and the dead are just that for any chance to get to the post season. The secret to getting into the playoffs is beating up on the teams that you should and at least splitting with the top teams that you play. This season there are 9 really bad teams in the league. That is more than in most years and points to a lot of coaching vacancies after the season.

    The Quick:

    5-0

    The Vikings are everything I said they would be before the season but there are some danger signs. Three of their wins are on the dead list—Cleveland, Detroit, and St. Louis. When they played better quality teams they have struggled at home on the O or the D. In the game against the 49ers the O struggled to a 27-24 win. Against the Pack the D struggled to get off the field and just won 30-23.

    The Indy Colts have gotten off to a fast start but it is a little deceiving. They also played 3 games against teams on the dead list and one at the Cards where the home team didn’t show up for the game. The key to the D is S Sanders. If he is there, the team can stop the run but they can’t without him. The O has a problem as well—The running game is not getting it done. Addai and Brown are averaging less than 3.6 yards per carry. That is not enough balance to win on the road against a good D in the post season.

    The NY Giants have looked good but they too have had a majority of their games against the dead. The only good team they have played is at Dallas and they squeaked by 33-31. The D is playing OK but the O has struggled with the running game. Now QB Manning has a foot injury and that could spell trouble for the team when the schedule gets tougher.

    4-0

    The Saints looked unbeatable at Philly winning 48-22 but the Eagles didn’t have McNabb. They also looked good against the Jets at home. This is probably one of the best teams in the league IF the D continues to play well. Their offense with Breez at QB is outstanding throwing the ball but have to continue to run the ball. They have some problems on the O line as well. We will know a lot more about the Saints after they host the Giants this week.

    4-1

    The Bengals are playing way beyond the level of talent on the team particularly on D. They have had the toughest schedule so far among the Fast teams. They own wins over the Ravens, Steelers, and Pack. Their only loss was a freak tipped pass against the Broncos on the first game of the season. They are playing well and are the best 1 loss team.

    3-1

    The Bears are playing well without Urlacker and Cutler. But can they keep it up?

    The Falcons looked really bad against the Pats but great against the 49ers. Which is the real team?

    The Eagles lost only one game in McNabb’s absence and that is really good news for the team. But can he stay healthy?

    The DEAD

    0-5

    The Titans are the deadest of the dead. No chance to do anything. They got old all at once and are the oldest starting 22 in the league.

    The Bucs are a close second on the dead list. This team is just bad and will take a lot of work and good drafts to get better.

    All the Kansas teams. The Rams have some potential on O with QB Bulger and RB Jackson but Bulger is hurt. The Chiefs are actually showing some signs of life after death but injuries have hurt them.

    1-4

    The Browns won a game by default. They are bad and do not have an offense.

    The Raiders are without a QB or a front office. Things in Raider land will not get better as long as Davis is running the team.

    The Bills are not going to get better soon. Edwards is not the answer at QB.

    The Lions have shown improvement. Of course that would not be hard after the 0-16 season.

    1-3

    The Panthers are the best of the dead teams. Some thought they had a pulse after a win over Washington but that team is near dead as well. No pulse no chance for the playoffs.

    That’s what I think. Tell me what you think.

    Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He is a senior writer for and edits https://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and edits .

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    NFL Commissioner Goodell is a gutless liar!

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    The NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell spoke out today on the issue of Rush Limbaugh’s desire to be a minority part of a bid to buy the St. Louis Rams. Mr. Goodell, you are gutless and you are a liar!

    You are a lier because you state that Mr. Limbaugh is divisive. That is only one lie spawned by the Left Media that was so willing to sell their soul (if they ever had one) to the Democratic Party that they failed to see how the video of ACORN attempting to become an accessory to multiple crimes. They have no credibility with the public. They consider anyone that does not worship at the alter of the far left to be “divisive”.

    In his statement he also mentioned the disparaging comment that Rush made about McNabb. Again, he was just mouthing the claims of the radical media that the comment was a slam against McNabb. Are you so stupid that you failed to realize that McNabb was getting more positive media attention than his performance at that point deserved? If you realized it but chose to ignore the fact, again you are a liar. If you are too dumb to recognize the truth of the statement, you are too stupid to be commissioner.

    I am certain that the Commissioner has not listened to the show and thus should not comment on something he knows nothing about.

    Mr. Goodell, when you repeat the lies of the media you become a liar as well. SHAME ON YOU! We expect better from the leader of a 10 billion dollar industry paid for by hard earn dollars from real Americans. You need to shut your mouth about things that you have no information about.

    You are gutless because you bow down and kiss the hobnail boots of the media and the NFLPA leadership. Get some backbone. If you curl up into the fetal position just because the new Ex. Director of the NFLPA makes an ill advised comment about a potential owner, what are you going to do when the union demands guaranteed contracts?

    Maybe it’s time that the owners realize they have a burned out bulb at the head of their industry and replace the bulb before it causes the league to go dark with a lockout or strike. Now there is a change that I would support.

    That’s what I think. Tell me what you think.

    Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He is a senior writer for and edits https://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and edits .

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    The NFLPA needs to keep its nose out of owner business.

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    Tomorrow will be a Tuesday Wednesday with our usual Tuesday QB appearing then.

    NFLPA Exec Dir DeMaurice Smith has sent a message to the NFL Owners saying that radio star Rush Limbaugh should be banned from being part of the ownership group bidding for the St. Louis Rams. The reason Smith sighted was that Limbaugh is decisive. Not only is that bogus but it is a lie. Smith didn’t have the guts to say what he really though—that Limbaugh is racist.

    If pressed, I am sure he could never come up with a single thing that Limbaugh has said that would lead anyone to think he is racist. That is remarkable because Limbaugh is on the air 15 hours a week. In addition every second of that time is monitored by those that want nothing more than to bring him down. Very few people operate everyday under that kind of pressure.

    What is worse, most of the quotes that are used to vilify Limbaugh have been fabricated by a far left media that is jealous of his success. The “progressive” (far left) Air America failed and went bankrupt despite a key executive stealing several hundred thousand dollars from the Boys and Girls Club of New York to make payroll in the final throws of death of the network.

    I have 3 problems with Smith sending his personal feelings to the NFL owners about who should and should not be allowed to be part of an NFL team.

    First, the accusations that Smith was too gutless to make clear about Rush being racist are a lie. Anyone that has listened to even an hour of his show knows that believes that every American has within him or her to be successful. He encourages self reliance, and finding what makes each of us happy and make that our jobs. I have been a regular listener for over 15 years and can say I have never heard a single word that could even be stretched into a racist comment. He has criticized those that try to convince minorities and anyone else that they are victims and can not become successful.

    There was the issue on ESPN about McNair. But those that heard the comment realized that in no way was he criticizing the media and not McNair. He said that he felt that the media was hyping McNair because they wanted to highlight a black QB. No one has refuted that statement. Rush has said a number of times that the criticism that the Eagle QB has received was not justified.

    Second, no one can question Limbaugh’s love of the game and his desire to help keep the Rams in St. Louis. I am a Browns fan. There is nothing worse than having the team you have followed all your life stolen by another city. It is a shot in gut of any fan that never really heals.

    Third and most important, the ownership of a team is not the business of the NFLPA. Smith has done that before by talking about the need to take the discipline out of the hands of the Commissioner. He has no right nor does the union to say who should or should not be part of team ownership. They are unionized employees. Does the line worker at GM have a right to pick the President? Well, now that the Government gave the union a stake in the company, it does but shouldn’t have.

    Limbaugh will not be the majority owner. He will be a minority partner. The Dolphins have recently brought in every star and star want to be in southern Florida to be a minority partner of that team. Limbaugh will not be divisive. It is his liberal detractors that are the divisive factor in our government and country. Limbaugh is an outstanding businessman with a marketing instinct that will help the team return to a competitive position within the league.

    Frankly, the NFL needs men like Rush Limbaugh if it is going to stay the top game in the country.

    That’s what I think. Tell me what you think.

    Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He is a senior writer for and edits https://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and edits .

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    What did we learn in week 3?

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    QB News:

    Miami: QB Chad Pennington is likely out for the season. According to ESPN, he suffered a torn capsule in his shoulder. He is getting a second opinion. I hope he can recover from the injury. He has always had the head of a coach, the heart of a lion and the arm of a chicken. But he is a perfect QB for the Dolphin O. Former 2nd round pick Chad Henne from Michigan will start for the time being.

    St. Louis: QB Mark Bulger has a rotator cuff injury. He will miss significant time.

    Tampa Bay: Coach Morris announced that Josh Johnson will be the starter replacing Byron Leftwich who will be the #3 QB behind rookie Josh Freeman.

    Cleveland: Brady Quinn was replaced by Derek Anderson to start the second half. As usual, no information has been made public about who will start next week against the Bengals. He will announce his latest victim on Wednesday.

    Quinn has shown nothing in 2+ games. Anderson moved the ball much better in the 2nd half but threw 3 picks. In my opinion, Mangenus will select Anderson but he should stick with Quinn. We all know that Anderson is not going to get this team back to respectability. Let the kid play. The team is not going anywhere this year anyway. I will have a lot more to say about the Browns Wednesday on NFLDraftDog.com

    Teams that are in some trouble:

    Dolphins – The team was not going to repeat as division champion anyway. But they are 0-3 and Pennington is hurt. They will not make the playoffs.

    Browns – They may get the #1 draft choice overall but Mangini will trade it for a bag of balls.

    Titans – This team will recover. They are much better than both the Jags and the Texans. But at 0-3 the playoffs are in question.

    Chiefs – Who cares?

    Redskins – What do you expect when you have a bad QB and a rookie O Coordinator?

    Bucs – This is the worst team in the NFC and that is saying a lot.

    Cowboys – If the Boys don’t win tonight Jerry Jones is going to have to fire his coach before the end of the season—the sooner the better.

    Panthers – The QB problem is going to keep the team from getting better. Matt Moore is their backup! Good planning guys.

    Seahawks – Starter Matt Hasselbeck is out and backup Seneca Wallace is in. That is trouble for the team that is already 1-2. The only thing they have in their favor is the fact that the St. Louis Lambs are in their division.

    Lambs – The Lambs are going to fight the Browns for the 1st pick overall. They have less talent but perhaps are better off in the locker room.

    We will look at the College game and NFL teams going in the right direction later in the week.

    That’s what I think. Tell me what you think.

    Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He is a senior writer for and edits https://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and edits .

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    MLB All Star weekend troubles.

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    What does everyone want to be named to but nobody wants to go to? Answer—the MLB All Star Game. Many players earn a bonus if they are named to the game only to find they are unable to participate because they are totally disabled by a potentially fatal case of hangnail.

    The American League has no players entered in the home run derby. Even the HRD which has been the one shining star in MLB’s All Star Weekend has some serious rust on it. While every All Star game has challenges, MLB’s game seems to be the most endangered.

    Who wouldn’t give up a weekend off at home with the family in the middle of July to spend a couple of days on the field at St. Louis in 100 degree 100% humidity? Evidently plenty of people wouldn’t. Even the NFL has decided that to get anyone to play in their post season game, they have to hold it in Hawaii. Baseball holds their game in the middle of the season. Maybe they should put a franchise in Hawaii too. At least the weather would be better.

    Players are afraid of injury. Remember Pete Rose running over Cleveland’s Ray Fosse in the 1970 game? Fosse was never the same after that hit. It cost him his career.

    What has happened to MLB’s summer classic is inter league play and too much television. When Ben Franklin and I were kids, we seldom saw our favorite players on out of market teams except for the all star game. Ben was always a bigger baseball fan than I was. But you can’t eliminate inter league play because it draws fans to the ballparks all over the league. Reductions in TV games won’t be happening any time soon either. Baseball is losing enough money as it is. So what’s to be done?

    One thing that should NEVER have been done is to allow the game to determine home field advantage in the World Series. Can you even imagine how stupid it would be to allow the West winning the NBA game 128-126 to give the Lakers home field advantage in the NBA finals?

    Nothing can be done. Baseball can add a skills competition like the NHL and NBA has but that will not draw the top names. The old timers game is about the only thing that will draw some viewers but not enough to make a difference. A rookie game with 3A all stars vs the current rookie crop might generate some interest and exposure for future stars of the game.

    As it has in every other area, baseball will continue to do the same things the same way and expect better results. That won’t work. Just ask our elected representatives in Washington. They use that exact approach to the problems we face.

    That’s what I think. Tell me what you think.

    Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He is a senior writer for and edits https://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and edits .

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