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The only time you hear more lies than the days leading up to the draft is during a Presidential campaign. After studying the NFL draft since 1960, I guess I have seen and heard about all the rumors and stories many times. Here are my impressions of what is true and what is a smoke screen.

The Texans will trade out of the 1st pick.

Getting something close to the value for DE Jadeveon Clowney at the top spot will be very hard. Although they are clearly open for business, the asking price they want is a high 1st and 2nd this draft and the trading team’s number 1 in 2015. I doubt they will find someone to pay that price.

The Lions want to trade up to get WR Sammy Watkins.

The Lions would love to trade up to get Watkins but it will be costly. While several teams in the top 5 would love to trade down, they expect a lot. For example a trade from 10 to 2 would cost the Lions their first, second (45), the third (95) and their 1st in 2015. While the Rams might offer a slight discount, that is a high price to pay considering that at 10 the Lions could get one of the other WR prospects that would be almost as good. They have a lot of needs and won’t make the trade.

The Bills want to trade up to get their man.

The Bills reportedly want OLB Khalil Mack from Buffalo Univ. but will likely have to get to 2 to get him. The same type of cost applies to move from 9 to 2. The Bills will settle for another OLB and save their picks. The final price is determined by how motivated the Rams are to move down.

Teams that need QBs will trade back into the 1st round to get their favorite.

This will happen for a very simple reason. The new CBA allows teams that pick in the 1st round get a 5th year option on the player they take. If the QB works out, they will exercise the option. If not, they won’t have to worry about it because the GM that replaced them will have that decision.

Everybody wants Johnny Football.

The Rams are very interested in drafting Johnny Manziel.

This is a message to QB Sam Bradford—get it done or you are gone. They will take a QB somewhere in the draft but not at 2 or 13. Bradford is in double jeopardy because he has a high cap number and no more guaranteed money in his deal.

The Browns are looking to take Manziel with the 4th pick.

While Browns owner Jimmy Haslem may really like him, there is a huge risk at taking such a frail QB that high. They may trade down and take him but it will not be at 4. Either Mack or Watkins would have to be on the board at 4 to give a team a reason to trade up.

The Cowboys are hoping to trade up to get Manziel.

This was another QB message. “Tony Romo get us into the playoffs this year or you will be gone in 2015.” It was also an attempt by Jerry Jones to get some interest in a team trading above them to get Manziel so that the player he wants really falls down to 16. But the cost of such a move would be so high that Jones quashed the rumor in a recent press conference.

The Raiders are interested in getting Manziel.

While Manziel would put people in the seats, the Raiders need to win now or the front office will be gone. I am not sure they would want to bet their jobs on Manziel getting wins by himself. It is possible but not likely.

The Falcons want to trade up to get pass rush help.

This one is true. They would love to trade up to 3 or 4 from 6 to get Mack or one of the OT prospects. He is the best pure OLB pass rusher on the board. The Falcons front office has a history of big trades up and 6 to 4 would not be overly costly. The likely deal with the Browns at 4 could be for 6, 37 (2nd) and 68 (3rd). The Browns likely take that deal but would be better off drafting Mack.

Most of the “well known” mock draft posters have inside information from the teams.

While some like Mel Kiper do have very solid connections around the league, most do not. They base their mock (aka guess) based on the needs of the various teams. No team wants leaks based on what they will do. Front office people have been fired for less than spilling the team’s beans.

Forget the mock drafts, it is the position rankings that are important.

This is true. While there is no way most mockers have inside information, to be taken seriously they need to be as honest as possible on the ranking of players. However, different people look for different things. It also depends on which games a media scout sees. I rate every draftable player when I chart a game. I do between 120 and 250 games a year to provide the draft postings on this site.

Most teams drafts are based on “best available” concept.

Usually teams at the bottom of the draft will take the best available player (bap). The teams at the top of the draft have too many holes to ignore and go bap. If you don’t fill your holes as a GM, your replacement will.

The Jets will move up to take Odel Beckham Jr. WR LSU.

Beckham is moving up due to his size and speed. He has moved to the 3rd spot on most people’s WR lists. He is a solid prospect with good up side and the ability to highpoint the ball. The Jets likely would have to get to 10 and the Bills and Lions may be willing to trade down if they can’t trade up or get their man at their current spot.

The Browns will draft 2 quarterbacks in 2014.

The Browns signed two vets at the position. However, until they fix the right side of the line they can use all the QB prospects they can get.

That is what I think. Tell us what you think.

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Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He edits https://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and a non-fiction work at http://www.merriam-press.com/. Follow him on twitter @NNRonDSN to get the schedule of Special News, Notes and Rumors broadcasts. You can hear the previous shows on https://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/ and the live show Mondays at 6 PM Eastern time on .

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Below is a summary of six of the sites that have proven to be the most accurate since 2009. It is interesting to see how differently they see these players. The numbers indicate the ranking of the player and not the expected pick with which they will be drafted.

The list is from the group of players I am watching most closely. The first column is the average of the player ratings.

 CBSDTKNFLCNTDFUT Tool
1.00111111Jadeveon ClowneyDESouth Carolina
4.502333313Greg RobinsonOTAuburn
5.50664557Khalil MackOLBBuffalo
5.505352216Jake MatthewsOTTexas A&M
6.678126446Anthony BarrOLBUCLA
8.339219893Teddy BridgewaterQBLouisville
11.171020811108Justin GilbertCBOklahoma State
12.33121314101312Eric EbronTENorth Carolina
12.331118912186Mike EvansWRTexas A&M
13.501314167625Taylor LewanOTMichigan
14.1715102118714Darqueze DennardCBMichigan State
15.1723879044C.J. MosleyILBAlabama
17.50281615211510Marqise LeeWRSouthern California
23.67221936173117Kony EalyDEMissouri
24.50293413163421Ryan ShazierOLBOhio State
26.67402822203020Stephon Tuitt InjuredDTNotre Dame
27.202029402819 Calvin PryorFSLouisville
27.67354225222418RaShede HagemanDTMinnesota
29.00333618242835Bradley RobyCBOhio State
29.17312143332027Jason VerrettCBTCU
34.17273027254155Kyle FullerCBVirginia Tech
34.17365240293315Cyrus KouandjioOTAlabama
34.83382644424019Jace AmaroTETexas Tech
36.00253832353650Xavier Su’a-FiloOGUCLA
38.501415110192251Aaron DonaldDTPittsburgh
41.17544417414546Carlos HydeRBOhio State
41.33372475452938David YankeyOGStanford
42.67443163483832Scott CrichtonDEOregon State
44.50344047735023Allen RobinsonWRPenn State
47.333032104232570Dee FordDEAuburn
47.8039417143 45Kyle Van NoyOLBBrigham Young
49.17714553414441Trent MurphyDEStanford
49.50694360653228Jordan MatthewsWRVanderbilt
51.0043714152 48Tre MasonRBAuburn
51.2555683151  Donte MoncriefWROle Miss
51.4047538146 30Austin Seferian-Jenkins InjuredTEWashington
58.4052257458 83Jeremiah AttaochuOLBGeorgia Tech
64.834951166393747Lamarcus JoynerCBFlorida State
66.4083574962 81DaQuan JonesDTPenn State
68.0060551235547 Dominique Easley InjuredDTFlorida
72.8080788357 66Ego FergusonDTLSU
72.8079936649 77Chris BorlandILBWisconsin
73.60667069110 53Will SuttonDTArizona State
75.8086988867 40Cyril RichardsonOGBaylor
77.60114497886 61Shayne SkovILBStanford
77.80779739114 62Ka’Deem CareyRBArizona
81.60100817999 49Travis SwansonCArkansas
82.20645015984 54Paul RichardsonWRColorado
83.67979064   Anthony JohnsonDTLSU
86.6081849682 90Marcus SmithDELouisville
86.755910012860  Weston RichburgCColorado State
87.504864115123  Martavis BryantWRClemson
89.208276120112 56Deone BucannonSSWashington State
95.75899510693  Zach Mettenberger InjuredQBLSU
95.75621943790  Jimmy GaroppoloQBEastern Illinois
100.50849914574  Stanley Jean-BaptisteCBNebraska
101.2010411015372 67Lache SeastrunkRBBaylor
105.25961349596  Pierre DesirCBLindenwood
105.507212714281  Terrence BrooksFSFlorida State
106.2085121130117 78Telvin SmithOLBFlorida State
110.006815813480  Carl BradfordOLBArizona State
113.509061196107  Jackson JeffcoatDETexas
116.0011220213687 43Louchiez PurifoyCBFlorida
122.2565151152121  Trevor ReillyOLBUtah
125.754111527176  Jimmie WardSSNorthern Illinois
127.00115111147135  Josh HuffWROregon
131.5013114268105 80Craig LostonSSLSU
135.20124102223156 71Dion BaileyFSSouthern California
140.75116105214128  Christian KirkseyOLBIowa
142.50151132138149  Anthony Steen InjuredOGAlabama
145.5098165211108  Robert HerronWRWyoming
158.7514818599203  Ross CockrellCBDuke
159.40152179248133 85James Hurst InjuredOTNorth Carolina
159.50139137170192  Devin StreetWRPittsburgh
166.7510760342158  Will ClarkeDEWest Virginia
170.00128140206206  Arthur LynchTEGeorgia
172.25120156193220  Chris DavisCBAuburn
174.0025820490144  Logan ThomasQBVirginia Tech
174.25197169164167  Max BulloughILBMichigan State
174.75227123199150  Michael SamDEMissouri
178.75184174200157  Jalen SaundersWROklahoma
182.50164177236153  Deion Belue InjuredCBAlabama
184.75155168221195  Michael SchofieldOTMichigan
191.50140125300201  Bryan StorkCFlorida State
196.0027019084240  Tajh BoydQBClemson
196.00181191228184  David FalesQBSan Jose State
196.25224150215196  Tyler LarsenCUtah State
201.50141166323176  Aaron Murray InjuredQBGeorgia
211.25187122283253  Morgan BreslinOLBUSC
213.75134205281235  Ricardo AllenCBPurdue
227.50162192328228  Michael CampanaroWRWake Forest
231.00343163176242  Shaquil BarrettOLBColorado State
241.50138195443190  Nevin LawsonCBUtah State
242.0087227484170  Phillip GainesCBRice
252.67313128317   Boseko Lokombo InjuredOLBOregon
291.00268234371   Christian Bryant InjuredFSOhio State

 

 

 

 

 

CBS http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2014/all

DTK

NFL

CNTD

FUT http://www.footballsfuture.com/2014/prospects/

Tool http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2014/top-nfl-prospects-for-2014.cfm

 

That is what I think. Tell us what you think.

 

NOTE: Check out the live News, Notes and Rumors show on Monday, Thursday and Friday at 6 PM Eastern on or https://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/. On Samantha Bunten of NBC Sports, former NFL scout Kelron Sykes and I talk NFL draft with just a little Indians and Cavs thrown in. The archive is available on https://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/. Please join us.

 

Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He edits https://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and a non-fiction work at http://www.merriam-press.com/. Follow him on twitter @NNRonDSN to get the schedule of Special News, Notes and Rumors broadcasts. You can hear the previous shows on https://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/ and the live show Mondays at 6 PM Eastern time on .

He also edits .

To keep up with the News, Notes & Rumors podcasts, follow me on twitter @NNRonDSN.

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