2017 NFL Draft prospects Offense From NNR podcast

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QB Weak at the top
1 DeShone Kizer ND 6-4 233 R1-2
Above agr arm QB that takes care of the ball. 47TDs 19X Don’t blame him for ND bad season. That’s on Kelly
2 Deshaun Watson Clm 6-3 215 r1
Acc but trusts his arm too much.  76TD 32X Also runs too much. Can he survive in the NFL?
3 *Mitch Trubisky NC 6-2 233 R1
Tall, solidly built passer. Outstanding athlete BUT 1 year starter Lack of experience is a big issue with me
4 Patrick Mahomes II TTK 6-2 225 R1-2
Top arm but inconstant mechanics. Played with no O line or WRs in a league with NO D. Perfect for CL
5 Davis Webb Cal 6-5 230 R2
Lean body with inj hist Out early in 15.  pressure alters his mechanics. Little D in Pac12
WC Chad Kelly Ole Miss 6-2 224 R6-7
Above avg arm & acc but lots of baggage too.
RB Decent depth but too many questions about this group
1 Leonard Fournette LSU 6-0 240 R1
5.5 Y/C Heavy runner with power & speed. Not as well used as most LSU RBs.
2 Dalvin Cook Florida State 5-11 213 R1
Good rec 3rd down back w/speed & balance. 19TDs in 15&16 Can he stay healthy as a 3 down back?
3 Christian McCaffrey Stanford 6-0 200 R1
6.1Y/C kr, pr rb & Good hands Can he stay healthy as a 3 down back?
4 Marlon Mack South Florida 6-0 210 R3-4
6.7y/c The primary back & 3Y starter in smaller conference
5 Alvin Kamara Tennessee 5-10 215 R3-4
6.2y/c Non-Starter that may be better in the NFL than Col.  Good hands 3rd down back in NFL
WC Joe Mixon Oklahoma 6-1 226 R3-?
6.7 Y/c 1st rnd Talent with FA baggage Hit a woman & suspended 1y
WR Good speed but no agreement on this group
1 Corey Davis Western Michigan 6-3 213 R1
4y starter 97c 16 Good size & spd NFL body but has avg hands.
2 Mike Williams Clm 6-3 225 R1
2Y starter 98c 16 Missed 15 with inj.  Avg spd Great hands & ath
3 Curtis Samuel OhS 5-11 197 R1-2
RB or WR? Athl with speed but lacks prime hight & weight Great Acc & chg spd Inj Hist 15
4 Chris Godwin PnSt 6-1 205 R2
2y starter  Good spd & hands & ath 16.4 y/c
5 John Ross Wash 5-11 190 R1-2
Speed 4.22 40 but not the size or hands to be a 1st round pick.
WC JuJu Smith-Schuster USC 6-2 220 R2-3
2Y starter possession rec 4.54 spd
TE One of the best groups in the draft.
1 OJ Howard Alab 6-6 251 1=R1
2Y starter on a team not TE friendly Solid receiver that can block well.
2 Evan Engram Ole Miss 6-3 227 R1-2
3y starter More big WR than TE, Great spd 4.42 decent blocker for his size Good hands
3 David Njoku Miami Fla 6-4 245 R1
1y starter Good athl & decent blocker but has too many drops in my opinion
4 Gerald Everett So Alab 6-4 240 R2
2Y starter good spd but small hands.Deep threat  Decent blocker but some drops.
5 Bucky Hodges VTK 6-7 245 R2-3
3y starter fair spd & decent blocker Good hands real match up nightmare for LB or S
WC Adam Shaheen Ashland Col 6-6 278 R2-3
Could become an OT Small college player that will have to answer a lot of questions about level of competiton
OT Very shallow group
1 Cam Robinson Alab 6-6 322 R1-2
Pulling OT with quick feet solid vs run & pass Played LT for Bama
2 Ryan Ramczyk Wisc 6-6 310 R1-2
1 yr @ Wisc tranfer from D2 quick to 2nd level Ath & power Hip Inj may keep him out of 1st
3 Rod Johnson FlaSt 6-7 300 R1-2
3.5Y ST RT prosp Good blk run quick feet but struggles vs Quick PR.
4 Garrett Bolles Utah 6-5 300 R1-2
Trns 1Y st Ut 2y out FB. Quick & agile but lacks Tech
5 Taylor Morton W Mich 6-5 325 R2
4Y ST good drive blk Will play RT or RG.  Waist bender fair blk pass.
WC Antonio Garcia Troy 6-6 302 R3
4Y ST in small school Needs more Stg but good pass prot
OG  Limited group with a few good players
1 Forrest Lamp W Ky 6-4 309 R1-2
4Y ST @ LT conv to LG due to short arms. Smart & good tech & quick feet
2 Dion Dawkins Temple 6-4 314 R2
3Y ST @ LT Nasty blocker w/power needs better tech
3 Dan Feeney Ind 6-4 305 R2
4Y ST @ RG good pwr Solid vs run & pass Missed 13 w/Lisfranc inj
4 Dorlan Johnson Pitt 6-5 300 R2
4Y ST No fat body smart finishes blocks but needs better tech
5 Isaac Asiata Utah 6-3 323 R2-3
2.5Y ST Top heavy & fails to get to 2nd level Good burst & power Needs tech help
WC Nico Siragusa SDSt 6-4 319 R3-4
Good body Lite feet Not quick @ snap & tends to hold  Interesting player with upside
C Thin group due to spread O in colleges
1 Pat Elflein OhSt 6-3 303 R3
4y st Rimington Win Good pwr & stg Quick Good hands Gets 2nd level
2 Ethan Pocic LSU 6-6 310 R3
3y st Good spd & power Eff @ 2nd level good run blocker needs help vs pass
3 Kyle Fuller Baylor 6-5 307 R3
good pass blk but needs work on Run blocking.
4 Tyler Orlosky WV 6-3 298 R3-4
3Y ST Quick off ball, but has stiff lower body Struggles in space.
5 Cameron Tom So Miss 6-3 291 R5
4y st T Leader, solid run @ 2nd level Too thin needs more stg. Better @ Zone block
WC Jon Toth Ky 6-5 307 R5
4y st Versital C or G & smart & 48 cons starts. Lacks pwr
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Jonathan Coopers Next Step is The Cleveland Browns!

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Jonathan Cooper

Jonathan Cooper is taking a new step in his career starting this week as the Right Guard for the Cleveland Browns.

Despite this new improvement in his career, Jonathan Cooper’s journey has not been an easy one. During this last year, he broke a bone in his leg and was thus placed on the injured reserve list, while working for the Arizona Cardinals in 2013. Then he was traded off to the New England Patriots in March, and then finally was claimed by the Browns.

Now Cooper, a 6’2″, 302 lbs man, will be replacing John Greco who was put on reserve for injuring his foot last week.

“It’s a great opportunity,” Cooper said. This is the time for Cooper to show his teammates what he is capable of.

Cleveland O-line Coach, Hal Hunter, said concerning Cooper, “He is athletic. He is smart. He is tough. Coach Hunters views this misfortune, as a new opportunity for Jonathan Cooper.

Coach Hue Jackson is looking forward to seeing what Jonathan Cooper, “is capable of doing,” and shares Coach Hunter’s sentiments saying, “This is what this league is about, a chance, an opportunity, and when you get it you have to make the most of it.”

This is Cooper’s first time being on a team that currently has No Wins. Football fans everywhere are looking forward to seeing Jonathan Cooper, take his next step as Cleveland Browns, Right Guard.

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NFL Week 8 preview on NNR.

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MI rb Arian Foster retires
nj QB Smith is put on IR
DV rb C J Anderson has meniscus damage out indefinately
OK lb Aldon Smith has applied for reinstatement after a year susp for substance abuse policy violation
DA Tony Romo is throwing the ball at practice.
JK22 TN36 The Titans scored on 4 of their first 5 possessions. It was a very one sided game.
2-5  4-4 The issue with JK was as usual QB Bortles.  His mechanics & footwork are bad. That prevents accuracy.
The game was Col. Mustard vs the Smerfs
TN Mariota 19/22 270 20 Murray 21/123 TD Wright 4c 84y TD
JK Bortles 33/54 337 30 4r 22y Hurns 7c 98 TD
WA CN-3 CN has to get the run game going again.  Looked great last week but that was vs CL so it doesn’t count.
4-3  3-4 WA run game is solid but the pass game has not been as effective as last year.
CN pass game (4th) vs WA pass D (17th)
WA pass game (3rd) vs CN pass D (12th)
NE-6.5 BF In week 4 BF shut out NE. But that was without Brady at QB. Look for NE to crush BF for payback.
6-1      4-3 BF pass D is horrible.  Brady & co will take advantage of that.
Brady & pass game vs BF pass D (31st)
BF run game (2nd) vs NE run D (11th)
AZ CR-3 CR has lost more games this year than in all of last season.  This will be a HUGE test of CR pass D.
3-3-1 1-5 Both teams need this game.  CR is out with 6 losses.  AZ needs to keep up with SE.
AZ run game (5th) vs CR run D (7th)
CR pass game (8th) vs AZ pass D (3rd)
DT HO-2.5 HO O has struggled but so has DT D.
4-3     4-3 The issue with Osweiler is he is not accurate & has bad footwork.
The only reason HC O’Brien has not benched his QB is Savage & Weeden are his only other QBs.
HO run game (12th) vs DT run D (19th)
DT pass game (12th) vs HO pass D (2nd)
KC-2.5 IN There is nothing wrong with Luck that a better O line would not solve.
4-2  3-4 KC needs a run game because that is the best chance for a long TD.  Smith’s arm is below average.
IN pass game (7th) vs KC pass D (19th)
KC run game (18th) vs IN run D (25th)
SE-3 NO SE has the WORST O line in NFL.  Not only hurts Wilson but run game as well.
4-1-1 2-4 All NO can depend on is QB Brees.  Has nothing else on either side of the ball.
SE pass game (14th) vs NO pass D (30th)
NO pass O (1st) vs SE pass D (9th)
OK TB-1 OK O is doing well while TB O is struggling a bit.
5-2 3-3 OK D is REALLY struggling but TB D is getting better.
OK O (13th pass & run) vs TB D (13th pass & 20th run)
TB pass O (16th) vs OK pass D (32nd)
DV-5.5 SD DV is a fairly complete team.  All SD has is Rivers.
5-2  3-4 DV rush O (16th) vs SD run D (8th)
SD pass O (5th) vs DV pass D (1st)
GB AT-3 GB O has struggled.  The problem is WRs are not getting open & Rodgers is not as accurate now either.
4-2  4-3 AT started hot but lost @ SE and home vs SD.  SE loss was expected. SD not so much.
AT pass O (2nd) vs GB pass D (15th)
GB pass O (20th) vs AT pass D (31st)
PH DA-4.5 DA has won 5 straight games.  Rookie QB Prescott is good but run game is outstanding.
4-2   5-1 PH rook QB Wentz is OK but the problem has been his mechanics.  The D has been the difference.
DA run game (1st) vs PH run D (14th)
PH run game (17th) vs DA run D (10TH)
MN-5.5  CH Monday
5-1          1-6
NJ-4.5 CL Neither of these teams are going anywhere.  NJ has no QB & CL has used 6 of them.
2-5       0-7 The best chance for CL is Fitzpatrick continuing to be very giving throwing picks.
NJ passing game (22nd) vs CL pass D (29th)
NJ run game (21st) vs CL run D (31st)
CL run game (8th) vs NJ run D (2nd)
CL pass game (24th) vs NJ pass D (27th)
QB McCown will start for CL. Does that improve their chance to win?
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The Problems with Johnny Manziel.

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The Problems With Johnnie Manziel

After guiding the Browns to a win over the 49ers lots of people are thinking that Johnny Manziel may be the QB of the future that the Browns have been looking for since 1999. One thing that has to be considered is that the 49ers could not beat the Sisters of the Perpetually Miserable on a consistent basis. The SF O and D linemen should be bagging groceries at the local Piggly Wiggly.

NOTE: On NNR Samantha Bunten of NBC Sports and I discussed the news of the day, injuries from the previous week, and reviewed all of this week’s games including a detailed analysis of the Browns game.

I am not among the group that feels he is an NFL starting quality player. But unlike most of the others, I am going to tell you why.

Manziel’s footwork is bad and he is not stepping into his throws. Way too often he throws flat footed. It is very hard to be accurate doing that. In addition he does not step into his throws. That also hurts his accuracy.

He is not consistent in his throwing platform. Even at his height he throws side armed. That will get a lot of passes batted up in the air causing potential interceptions. He needs to work on his over the top delivery. That would help in the accuracy as well as allowing fewer passes to be batted up.

Manziel lacks poise in the pocket when he is under pressure. Unfortunately that happens a lot for any Browns QB. His instinct is to run out of the pocket leaving any protection and risking injury. We saw the interception he threw across his body to the middle of the field as he was getting hit. That can not happen.

He misses WRS that were wide open because Manziel still doesn’t see the field well. On a team with WRS that struggle to get open it can’t have that. The problem is not his height. Russell Wilson is shorter than Manziel but still sees the field very well. The problem is his lack of focus.

He lacks touch particularly on short throws. If you remember Derick Anderson never completing a pass to a running back you have seen a lot of BAD football. Manziel puts way too much heat on short throws. Add that to the fact that RBS tend to have much worse hands than experienced WRS and that takes away one of the potential weapons of the Browns.

Manziel takes chances throwing into coverage. Those that have great arms tend to trust it to get the ball into very tight coverages. Even those like Manziel that have just a decent arm do that as well. Johnny trusts his arm way too much.

He is not carrying out his fakes. To be effective, play action requires a good fake. Failure to carry out the fake allowed the linebackers to ignore it and stay in zone coverage. It also negates the threat of his run ability. That would open up the running lanes for the backs.

All these things can be fixed but will not unless be unless Manziel changes his attitude & practice habits. While he has shown some dedication to the team and his craft, he is someone the I would not trust with my career were I the head coach or general manager. His action after he was named the starter for the rest of the season was all I needed to see.

If I was the GM I would take a QB with the 1st round pick because the Browns can not trust Manziel.

That is what I think. Tell us what you think by commenting here or tweeting me @NNRonDSN.

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Did the Eagles show the NFL how to beat the Patriots?

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NOTE: On NNR Samantha Bunten of NBC Sports and I discussed the news of the day, injuries from the previous week, and reviewed all of this week’s games including a detailed analysis of the Browns game.

According to the “experts” the Eagles used a well proven system to beat the Patriots. It was the same game plan that the Giants used to beat New England in 2 Super Bowls. The Eagle D put pressure on Patriots QB Tom Brady. At the same time the defensive backs were staying close to the Pat receivers. That forced Brady to hold the ball just a little longer and contributed to 4 sacks.

That is all very nice BUT it had very little to do with the win. It really helped the Eagles that Brady lost all of his veteran receivers. The newbies were wearing “Hello, my name is” tags on their uniforms.

But that was not the key factor as well.

The newbies could not get any separation from the Eagle DBS. It was not so much that the backs did such a good job covering but it was that the WRS were not good enough to get open. But that was not the key either.

The O line was populated by guys that needed to introduce themselves to Brady in the first huddle. Of course a veteran D line was able to get pressure on Brady because the O line was trying to figure out who to block. But even that is not the key to the Eagle win.

What happened was that the Eagles got 3 non-offensive touchdowns which led them to the win. That is all any team has to do to beat the Patriots. Good luck to the teams that face Brady and the Patriots. It is going to be hard to beat them.

That is what I think. Tell us what you think by commenting here or tweeting me @NNRonDSN.

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Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He edits http://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and a non-fiction work at http://www.merriam-press.com/. Follow him on twitter @NNRonDSN to get the schedule of Special News, Notes and Rumors broadcasts. You can hear the previous shows on http://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/.

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Austin Davis is the right QB to start this week.

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NOTE: On NNR Samantha Bunten of NBC Sports and I discussed the news of the day and detailed the Browns loss to the Ravens including the details of the blocked field goal attempt.

Austin Davis has a 3 year deal and had more starts than Johnny Manziel. He is at the least a solid backup QB and at best perhaps a part time starter. He has an NFL arm but not a cannon. He sees the field and reads defenses fairly well. And the most significant advantage he has over Manziel is that he has not lied to the coaching staff.

The last statement is most significant. Even if Manziel was on the field a clone of Cam Newton the fact is that he can not be trusted to become the face of the franchise. Manziel has been coddled his entire life. That has resulted in an attitude that he can get away with almost anything including lying to the staff.

Often a person who goes into rehab is not able to sustain a clean life after resuming their lives. It often takes 3 or 4 trips to rehab to over come their addiction. When that person has been able to avoid punishment for his indiscretions it could even require more treatment.

The bottom line is Manziel is not an NFL quality starting QB. My opinion is shared by a number of better known NFL analysts. He would be better off with a new team. He has burned too many bridges in Cleveland. Admittedly he has progressed this season. But he will never put in the work to fully develop his talent because he is as interested in being a celebrity as he is a football player. As long as that is the case he will ever even become as good as he could be. That also means he will never succeed in the NFL.

That is what I think. Tell us what you think by commenting here or tweeting me @NNRonDSN.

NOTE: News, Notes and Rumors podcast are BACK. Check out our thoughts on Fridays about the games coming up and Monday on the results of the weekend. My co-host is Samantha Bunten of NBC Sports. Podcasts can be heard on http://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/. Thanks for your support.

Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He edits http://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and a non-fiction work at http://www.merriam-press.com/. Follow him on twitter @NNRonDSN to get the schedule of Special News, Notes and Rumors broadcasts. You can hear the previous shows on http://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/.

He also edits http://fryingpanpolitics.org/.

To keep up with the News, Notes & Rumors podcasts, follow me on twitter @NNRonDSN.

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