2017 NFL Draft prospects Offense From NNR podcast

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QB Weak at the top
1 DeShone Kizer ND 6-4 233 R1-2
Above agr arm QB that takes care of the ball. 47TDs 19X Don’t blame him for ND bad season. That’s on Kelly
2 Deshaun Watson Clm 6-3 215 r1
Acc but trusts his arm too much.  76TD 32X Also runs too much. Can he survive in the NFL?
3 *Mitch Trubisky NC 6-2 233 R1
Tall, solidly built passer. Outstanding athlete BUT 1 year starter Lack of experience is a big issue with me
4 Patrick Mahomes II TTK 6-2 225 R1-2
Top arm but inconstant mechanics. Played with no O line or WRs in a league with NO D. Perfect for CL
5 Davis Webb Cal 6-5 230 R2
Lean body with inj hist Out early in 15.  pressure alters his mechanics. Little D in Pac12
WC Chad Kelly Ole Miss 6-2 224 R6-7
Above avg arm & acc but lots of baggage too.
RB Decent depth but too many questions about this group
1 Leonard Fournette LSU 6-0 240 R1
5.5 Y/C Heavy runner with power & speed. Not as well used as most LSU RBs.
2 Dalvin Cook Florida State 5-11 213 R1
Good rec 3rd down back w/speed & balance. 19TDs in 15&16 Can he stay healthy as a 3 down back?
3 Christian McCaffrey Stanford 6-0 200 R1
6.1Y/C kr, pr rb & Good hands Can he stay healthy as a 3 down back?
4 Marlon Mack South Florida 6-0 210 R3-4
6.7y/c The primary back & 3Y starter in smaller conference
5 Alvin Kamara Tennessee 5-10 215 R3-4
6.2y/c Non-Starter that may be better in the NFL than Col.  Good hands 3rd down back in NFL
WC Joe Mixon Oklahoma 6-1 226 R3-?
6.7 Y/c 1st rnd Talent with FA baggage Hit a woman & suspended 1y
WR Good speed but no agreement on this group
1 Corey Davis Western Michigan 6-3 213 R1
4y starter 97c 16 Good size & spd NFL body but has avg hands.
2 Mike Williams Clm 6-3 225 R1
2Y starter 98c 16 Missed 15 with inj.  Avg spd Great hands & ath
3 Curtis Samuel OhS 5-11 197 R1-2
RB or WR? Athl with speed but lacks prime hight & weight Great Acc & chg spd Inj Hist 15
4 Chris Godwin PnSt 6-1 205 R2
2y starter  Good spd & hands & ath 16.4 y/c
5 John Ross Wash 5-11 190 R1-2
Speed 4.22 40 but not the size or hands to be a 1st round pick.
WC JuJu Smith-Schuster USC 6-2 220 R2-3
2Y starter possession rec 4.54 spd
TE One of the best groups in the draft.
1 OJ Howard Alab 6-6 251 1=R1
2Y starter on a team not TE friendly Solid receiver that can block well.
2 Evan Engram Ole Miss 6-3 227 R1-2
3y starter More big WR than TE, Great spd 4.42 decent blocker for his size Good hands
3 David Njoku Miami Fla 6-4 245 R1
1y starter Good athl & decent blocker but has too many drops in my opinion
4 Gerald Everett So Alab 6-4 240 R2
2Y starter good spd but small hands.Deep threat  Decent blocker but some drops.
5 Bucky Hodges VTK 6-7 245 R2-3
3y starter fair spd & decent blocker Good hands real match up nightmare for LB or S
WC Adam Shaheen Ashland Col 6-6 278 R2-3
Could become an OT Small college player that will have to answer a lot of questions about level of competiton
OT Very shallow group
1 Cam Robinson Alab 6-6 322 R1-2
Pulling OT with quick feet solid vs run & pass Played LT for Bama
2 Ryan Ramczyk Wisc 6-6 310 R1-2
1 yr @ Wisc tranfer from D2 quick to 2nd level Ath & power Hip Inj may keep him out of 1st
3 Rod Johnson FlaSt 6-7 300 R1-2
3.5Y ST RT prosp Good blk run quick feet but struggles vs Quick PR.
4 Garrett Bolles Utah 6-5 300 R1-2
Trns 1Y st Ut 2y out FB. Quick & agile but lacks Tech
5 Taylor Morton W Mich 6-5 325 R2
4Y ST good drive blk Will play RT or RG.  Waist bender fair blk pass.
WC Antonio Garcia Troy 6-6 302 R3
4Y ST in small school Needs more Stg but good pass prot
OG  Limited group with a few good players
1 Forrest Lamp W Ky 6-4 309 R1-2
4Y ST @ LT conv to LG due to short arms. Smart & good tech & quick feet
2 Dion Dawkins Temple 6-4 314 R2
3Y ST @ LT Nasty blocker w/power needs better tech
3 Dan Feeney Ind 6-4 305 R2
4Y ST @ RG good pwr Solid vs run & pass Missed 13 w/Lisfranc inj
4 Dorlan Johnson Pitt 6-5 300 R2
4Y ST No fat body smart finishes blocks but needs better tech
5 Isaac Asiata Utah 6-3 323 R2-3
2.5Y ST Top heavy & fails to get to 2nd level Good burst & power Needs tech help
WC Nico Siragusa SDSt 6-4 319 R3-4
Good body Lite feet Not quick @ snap & tends to hold  Interesting player with upside
C Thin group due to spread O in colleges
1 Pat Elflein OhSt 6-3 303 R3
4y st Rimington Win Good pwr & stg Quick Good hands Gets 2nd level
2 Ethan Pocic LSU 6-6 310 R3
3y st Good spd & power Eff @ 2nd level good run blocker needs help vs pass
3 Kyle Fuller Baylor 6-5 307 R3
good pass blk but needs work on Run blocking.
4 Tyler Orlosky WV 6-3 298 R3-4
3Y ST Quick off ball, but has stiff lower body Struggles in space.
5 Cameron Tom So Miss 6-3 291 R5
4y st T Leader, solid run @ 2nd level Too thin needs more stg. Better @ Zone block
WC Jon Toth Ky 6-5 307 R5
4y st Versital C or G & smart & 48 cons starts. Lacks pwr
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If Black lives matter, why don’t those killed in Chicago matter?

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Black lives matter 

Understand that I believe any death of an innocent person is tragic.  But I think that Colin Kaepernick and others (black lives matter) are wrong about what is preventing them from standing at the National Anthem.  If they were being honest, they would realize that the number of police shootings of innocent Black men is very small compared to the number of Black men, women and children gunned down in our inner cities like Chicago.

The number of killings of Blacks in Chicago so far this year has topped the total of last year in just over 9 months.  By far the majority of killings of Blacks in Chicago and other major cities in the US are done by other Blacks.  If Kaepernick and others were protesting that, I would be supporting them.  Those people are the ones that are suffering the loss of members of their families.  Those are the families I feel sorry for.

There are many reasons why that is happening in our major cities but that is not the point here.  The point is this—Black lives do matter no matter who causes the death.  That is something that I believe every American could get behind.   Let’s not forget the genocide going on in far too many inner cities.  That has to be the primary focus of all of us.

That is what I think.  Tell us what you think by commenting here or tweeting me @NNRonDSN.

NOTE:  On NNR Samantha Bunten of NBC Sports and I discussed the news of the day and the NFC Free agent signings with grades.

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Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He edits http://fryingpansports.com.  He has also published several novels on and a non-fiction work at http://www.merriam-press.com/.  Follow him on twitter @NNRonDSN to get the schedule of Special News, Notes and Rumors broadcasts.  You can hear the previous shows on http://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/.

He also edits http://fryingpanpolitics.org/.  

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Did the Eagles show the NFL how to beat the Patriots?

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Pats Eagles

NOTE: On NNR Samantha Bunten of NBC Sports and I discussed the news of the day, injuries from the previous week, and reviewed all of this week’s games including a detailed analysis of the Browns game.

According to the “experts” the Eagles used a well proven system to beat the Patriots. It was the same game plan that the Giants used to beat New England in 2 Super Bowls. The Eagle D put pressure on Patriots QB Tom Brady. At the same time the defensive backs were staying close to the Pat receivers. That forced Brady to hold the ball just a little longer and contributed to 4 sacks.

That is all very nice BUT it had very little to do with the win. It really helped the Eagles that Brady lost all of his veteran receivers. The newbies were wearing “Hello, my name is” tags on their uniforms.

But that was not the key factor as well.

The newbies could not get any separation from the Eagle DBS. It was not so much that the backs did such a good job covering but it was that the WRS were not good enough to get open. But that was not the key either.

The O line was populated by guys that needed to introduce themselves to Brady in the first huddle. Of course a veteran D line was able to get pressure on Brady because the O line was trying to figure out who to block. But even that is not the key to the Eagle win.

What happened was that the Eagles got 3 non-offensive touchdowns which led them to the win. That is all any team has to do to beat the Patriots. Good luck to the teams that face Brady and the Patriots. It is going to be hard to beat them.

That is what I think. Tell us what you think by commenting here or tweeting me @NNRonDSN.

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Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He edits http://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and a non-fiction work at http://www.merriam-press.com/. Follow him on twitter @NNRonDSN to get the schedule of Special News, Notes and Rumors broadcasts. You can hear the previous shows on http://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/.

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Austin Davis is the right QB to start this week.

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BrnBen

NOTE: On NNR Samantha Bunten of NBC Sports and I discussed the news of the day and detailed the Browns loss to the Ravens including the details of the blocked field goal attempt.

Austin Davis has a 3 year deal and had more starts than Johnny Manziel. He is at the least a solid backup QB and at best perhaps a part time starter. He has an NFL arm but not a cannon. He sees the field and reads defenses fairly well. And the most significant advantage he has over Manziel is that he has not lied to the coaching staff.

The last statement is most significant. Even if Manziel was on the field a clone of Cam Newton the fact is that he can not be trusted to become the face of the franchise. Manziel has been coddled his entire life. That has resulted in an attitude that he can get away with almost anything including lying to the staff.

Often a person who goes into rehab is not able to sustain a clean life after resuming their lives. It often takes 3 or 4 trips to rehab to over come their addiction. When that person has been able to avoid punishment for his indiscretions it could even require more treatment.

The bottom line is Manziel is not an NFL quality starting QB. My opinion is shared by a number of better known NFL analysts. He would be better off with a new team. He has burned too many bridges in Cleveland. Admittedly he has progressed this season. But he will never put in the work to fully develop his talent because he is as interested in being a celebrity as he is a football player. As long as that is the case he will ever even become as good as he could be. That also means he will never succeed in the NFL.

That is what I think. Tell us what you think by commenting here or tweeting me @NNRonDSN.

NOTE: News, Notes and Rumors podcast are BACK. Check out our thoughts on Fridays about the games coming up and Monday on the results of the weekend. My co-host is Samantha Bunten of NBC Sports. Podcasts can be heard on http://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/. Thanks for your support.

Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He edits http://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and a non-fiction work at http://www.merriam-press.com/. Follow him on twitter @NNRonDSN to get the schedule of Special News, Notes and Rumors broadcasts. You can hear the previous shows on http://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/.

He also edits http://fryingpanpolitics.org/.

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  • Published: Nov 26th, 2015
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Joey Bosa is off my draft board.

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Joey Bosa Ohio State buckeyes

Joey Bosa Ohio State buckeyes

NOTE: On NNR Samantha Bunten of NBC Sports and I discussed the news of the day, injuries from the previous week, and previewed all of this week’s games including a detailed analysis of the Browns game.

Like most Ohio State fans, I was disappointed at the loss to the Spartans. But more than anything else I was shocked to see Joey Bosa fail to perform in the 1st big game of the season. For those of us that are draft-nicks, one thing that predicts failure in the NFL is failure in big games in college. A stiff can look good playing against the Sisters of the Perpetually Miserable. But how a player preforms against a big time opponent has always been an indicator of how that player would fair at the next level.

Bosa did nothing in the MSU game. That is all I needed to see to take him off my board. He might turn out to be a good or even great player. But I can not risk taking a player like that with a top 5 pick in the draft.

Samantha Bunten of NBC Sport and I wish each of you a wonderful Thanksgiving.

That is what I think. Tell us what you think by commenting here or tweeting me @NNRonDSN.

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Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He edits http://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and a non-fiction work at http://www.merriam-press.com/. Follow him on twitter @NNRonDSN to get the schedule of Special News, Notes and Rumors broadcasts. You can hear the previous shows on http://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/.

He also edits http://fryingpanpolitics.org/.

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  • Published: Nov 14th, 2015
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Thoughts on the 1st half of the NFL season.

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NOTE: On NNR Samantha Bunten of NBC Sports and I discussed the news of the day, injuries from week 9, and previewed all week 10 games including the Browns/Steelers.

AFC East

Patriots – No question Tom Brady is playing at a very high level. The question is will issues in the D backfield cost them a Super Bowl?

Bills – New coaching staff, solid D but the same old problem—No QB.

Jets – No question the D is one of the very best. They have the same issue as the Bills.

Dolphins – The team quit on their former coach and this team is headed for a total rework.

AFC North

Bengals – QB Andy Dalton has played very well but can they win a playoff game? No.

Steelers – Injuries have decimated this team but the D backfield has never been worse.

Ravens – The only thing that will save HC Harbaugh’s job is the super bowl win.

Browns – It is time to blow up the organization again. The sooner they fire GM Ray Farmer the better the 2016 draft will be.

AFC South

Colts – If things weren’t bad enough Andrew Luck is hurt. The D is pathetic and now the QB is 85 years old.

Texans – Once they stopped flipping coins to decide which QB to start the team has started to win. The D has always been solid. The Colts had better watch out.

Jaguars – Blake Bortles is playing well but needs more weapons. The D is a disaster and needs to be upgraded.

Titans – They drafted a QB and have 2 legitimate starters. They need to trade 1 to get more players.

AFC West

Broncos – Peyton Manning has fallen and he can’t get up. He is clearly not the QB he used to be. The D has saved them often but will not get him to a Super Bowl win.

Raiders – HC Jack Del Rio has this team headed in the right direction. He has a QB and a couple of receivers. One more good draft will make this team very dangerous.

Chiefs – It was clear that KC would struggle on O but the D has disintegrated as well. Maybe the pass rushers’ wallets are slowing them down.

Chargers – Any team that has rumors of moving out of town is bound to be hurt. Phillip Rivers has carried this team on his back for years. This year he is getting even less help than in the past.

NFC East

Giants – Eli Manning is struggling without a run game and an O line in flux. The D needs to generate more pressure on the opposing QB but the injury to JPP has made that unlikely.

Eagles – Chip Kelly has made some strange moves collecting 2 RBS and a QB with serious injury histories. The high speed O will kill the D unless they can make 1st downs and hold the ball.

Redskins – This team is a dumpster fire and yet they are looking down at the Cowboys. They have no QB and the run game has gone south. The D has never been good.

Cowboys – Jerry Jones has no one to blame but himself. He thought either Brandon Weeden or Matt Cassel could replace Tony Romo and keep the team winning. He was VERY wrong.

NFC North

Packers – The Panthers showed every team how to stop the Pack O—cover the receivers until the D line can sack the QB. The D has fallen off as well in the last 2 losses.

Vikings – The combination of Bridgewater and Peterson have the team in the hunt for a playoff spot. But the D is contributing by holding opponents to 17.5 ppg.

Bears – Cutler will be gone next year. Some coach will think they are the guy that can turn him into an superstar but they will be wrong.

Lions – “With the first pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select…”

NFC South

Panthers – Newton is playing OK but is not an MVP candidate completing just 53.7% with 14TDS but 9 interceptions. The D has been outstanding allowing 20.6 ppg.

Falcons – They were undefeated until the O played road kill. It has always been the D that did them in.

Saints – Brees is doing all he can but has to wonder who’s side the D is on. The DC is a big part of the problem.

Buccaneers – Winston is learning that the NFL is not like the ACC. He will get it but it will take a while. The D needs more players like LB David.

NFC West

Cardinals – This team is a time bomb waiting for Carson Palmer to get hurt again. As long as he is healthy this team is a Super Bowl contender.

Rams – Foles is not the answer at QB but neither was Bradford. They have the RB in Gurley and the D. All they need now is the QB and some bigger WRS.

Seahawks – Russel Wilson has been sacked 85 times in 8 games despite his mobility. The O line is killing their chances to get back to the Super Bowl. The D has also given up leads late in games.

49ers – Kaepernick will be gone at the end of the season. Some coach will think they are the guy that can turn him into a star and they will be right. Ownership will be sorry they let their HC and QB leave.

That is what I think. Tell us what you think by commenting here or tweeting me @NNRonDSN.

NOTE: News, Notes and Rumors podcast are BACK. Check out our thoughts on Fridays about the games coming up and Monday on the results of the weekend. My co-host is Samantha Bunten of NBC Sports. Podcasts can be heard on http://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/. Thanks for your support.

Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He edits http://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and a non-fiction work at http://www.merriam-press.com/. Follow him on twitter @NNRonDSN to get the schedule of Special News, Notes and Rumors broadcasts. You can hear the previous shows on http://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/.

He also edits http://fryingpanpolitics.org/.

To keep up with the News, Notes & Rumors podcasts, follow me on twitter @NNRonDSN.

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