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News, Notes & Rumors for week 8

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NOTE:  Check out the live News, Notes and Rumors show on Monday and Friday at 6 PM Eastern on The Bill Smith Radio Show or the archive of the shows on http://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/.  On Monday Samantha Bunten of NBC Sports and I discuss the Browns game and the results of the weekend.  On Friday Tony Williams Giants beat writer for Metro New York joins Samantha and me to preview the upcoming games.

 

News:

Eagles Coach Chip Kelly’s offense has now gone 8 quarters without scoring a TD.  The team is now 3-5 and have lost 2 in a row.  Kelly has been forced to slow down the super speed O because of injuries and turnovers.  The only thing keeping the Eagles in the race for the NFC Least title is the bad records of the other teams in the division.  The future of this O is still very much in question.

 

Cowboy WR Dez Bryant went off on the sideline during a loss to the Lions.  He is right that he is the most talented receiver on the team and needs to get the ball more often.  QB Tony Romo is struggling this year to get the ball out.  If they want to win they had better find a way to get the ball to Dez.

 

Bengals OT Andrew Whitworth suffered a knee injury and will have an MRI this week.

 

Cardinal WR Larry Fitzgerald is the youngest player ever to amass 800 passes in his career.  He will be a first ballot Hall of Famer as soon as he is eligible.

 

Lions WR Ryan Broyles has a ruptured Achilles’ and will be lost for the season.  He has struggled with injuries in his brief career.

 

Pats RT Sebastian Vollmer was carted off the field with a knee injury.

 

Dolphins WR Brandon Gibson suffered a knee injury and is expected to miss the rest of the season.

 

 

 

 

Notes:

Giants 15 Eagles 7 – The G-Men kicked the Eagles to a win with 5 field goals.  The Giant D was not the key.  The Eagle O was totally inept and did not score a point.  The lone TD of the game came on a fumble recovery and return by the Eagle special teams member Najee Goode.  The O converted only 3 of 12 third down attempts and turned the ball over 3 times.  QB Mike Vick left the game in the first quarter with a hamstring injury but it did not matter.  He was 6 for 9 for 30 yards and a pick.  QB Matt Barkley threw only 1 interception and a fumble lost.  But behind Barkley the team was not close to getting the ball into the red zone let alone the endzone.  The Eagles had just 48 yards on 19 rushing attempts.  Giant QB Eli Manning threw for 246 yards and did not have a pick.

 

Broncos 45 Redskins 21 – Neither team could give the ball away fast enough.  The teams combined for 9 turnovers including 3 interceptions thrown by Payton Manning.  But Manning also threw 4 TDs and the combination of Robert Griffin and Kirk Cousins together threw only 1 TD.  Griffin was hurt again and replaced by Cousins.  The Broncos overcame the turnovers to dominate the fourth quarter and the final score.

 

Patriots 27 Dolphins 17 – The Dolphins were up 17-3 at half time.  Pats QB Tom Brady threw for 116 yards with a TD and a pick.  Brady’s throwing hand was badly swollen.  Most would expect the Pats lost but the D came through with 6 sacks and 3 turnovers.  The key adjustment in the second half was the Pats began to blitz often.  That stopped the Fish’s O cold.  The Pats scored 24 straight points in the 2nd half to put the game away.  The Pats ran for 152 yards.  Despite the injuries the Pats just find a way to win.

 

49ers 42 Jaguars 10 – The people of London have not seen such a one sided affair since they had to evacuate their troops from Dunkirk.  49er QB Colin Kaepernick ran for 2 TDs and threw for another.  RB Frank Gore ran for a pair of scores as well.  Jags QB Chad Henne did his best throwing for 228 yards with a TD and no interceptions.  But the Jags converted just 4 of 14 third down opportunities and the 49ers only faced 3rd down 9 times.  They converted 6 of the 9.  The Jags need a QB and will likely get the first pick in the 2014 draft to select one.

 

Raiders 21 Steelers 18 – Raider QB Terrelle Pryor opened the scoring with a 92 yard run for a TD.  RB Darren McFadden added 2 rushing TDs.  The Raider D held the Steelers to just 35 yards rushing on 19 carries and allowed just 4 first downs on 15 tries by the opponent.  Ben Roethlisberger threw the ball 45 times and was picked twice with 5 sacks.  After two consecutive wins it looked like they had turned things around.  But the loss to the Raiders showed there are still a bunch of issues in Pittsburgh.

 

Lions 31 Cowboys 30 – The Boys kicked a field goal with 1:02 left in the 4th to take the lead to 30-24.  Then they let Lions QB Matthew Stafford drive the length of the field to score the winning TD with 12 seconds on the clock.  The issue was the scheme.  The Boys doubled the TE and left Calvin Johnson man to man.  Stafford hit him with the pass that setup the final score.  Stafford threw for 488 yards including 14 catches for 329 yards to Johnson.  The Boys had a 20-10 lead with 11:32 left in the game but could not hold on.  The Cowboy pass defense is a mess.

 

Bengals 45 Jets 9 – The Bengals D made Geno Smith look like a rookie.  They sacked him 3 times and picked him off twice.  In the first quarter the Jets netted 1 yard on 9 plays.  The Bengals played long ball against the Jets defensive backfield.  The line gave Bengal QB Andy Dalton time and he threw a career high 5 TDs.  The Bengal D contributed 2 pick 6’s.  The over hyped Jets D looked slow and confused by the young Dalton.

 

Saints 35 Bills 17 – It was just another day at the office for Drew Brees.  He threw 5 TDs and passed for 332 yards and no interceptions.  The Bills were totally overwhelmed and looked like they would rather be anywhere other than the Super Dome.  Bills QB Thad Lewis was OK.  He went 22 for 39 for 234 yards with a TD and a pick but also lost 2 fumbles.  The Bills can’t compete against a top level NFL team.

 

Chiefs 23 Browns 17 – QB Jason Campbell is the 20th guy to start a game for the Browns since the team came back in 1999.  At least the Browns did not trade him in the middle of the 3rd quarter like they did Charlie Frye on his start game 1 against the Steelers in 2007.  For my complete analysis of this game check out Browns Chiefs Live Game Notes here on http://fryingpansports.com/.

 

 

Rumors:

With the trading deadline this Tuesday at 4PM EDT, the rumors this week revolve around possible trades.  Normally there is a lot of talk and very little action around the NFL trade deadline.  This season could be different because of the large number of injuries that have occurred.

 

WRs seem to be the most needed addition to teams looking toward the playoffs.  The Colts are interested in trading for one as are the Packers.  The Colts have already traded their first pick in 2014 to the Browns for RB Trent Richardson.

 

The Browns have the for sale sign out on just about everyone.  According to Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports they are willing to trade TE Jordon Cameron as well as WR Josh Gordon.  The 49ers are looking to move both WR Jonathan Baldwin and CB Nnamdi Asomugha.

 

The Falcons may consider trading TE Tony Gonzalez after their loss to the Cardinals.  They would ask him if he wanted to be traded first.  He resigned this year only to try to get a championship ring.  Now that the Falcons are 2-5 that is not likely to happen in Atlanta.

 

The Jags have the for sale sign out but have very few players that would attract interest.  DE Jason Babin is the one player in which a contender might have interest.

 

The Giants are willing to trade DE Justin Tuck according to La Canfora.  He also believes that the Vikes are trying to move DE Jared Allen and the Raiders could be willing to trade RB Darren McFadden.  With the emergence of RB Andre Ellington, the Cards might trade RB Ryan Williams.  The Saints would like to trade former 1st round bust RB Mark Ingram.

 

The Cards will have to trade WR Larry Fitzgerald or restructure his contract because of a very large base in 2014.

 

The salary cap issues are going to force the Cowboys to make some serious moves next season.

 

 

 

 

That’s what I think.  Tell me what you think.

 

Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He edits http://fryingpansports.com.  He has also published several novels on and a non-fiction work at http://www.merriam-press.com/.  Follow him on twitter @NNRonDSN to get the schedule of Special News, Notes and Rumors broadcasts.  You can hear the previous shows on http://fryingpansports.com/radio-show/ and the live show Mondays at 6 PM Eastern time on The Bill Smith Radio Show.  

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Is Eagle HC Reid on the hot seat?

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Several months ago on NFLDraftDog.com I mentioned that Eagles HC Reid was on the hot seat.  This
was just one more example of my information and instincts being right.  More than a year before OC Weis left the
Chiefs for a lateral move to the OC spot at Florida, I reported that there was a conflict between him and HC Haley.

Last Sunday, a local Philly paper reported that the Reid era of the Eagles may be coming to an end.  There
are several reasons that is happening.   First, and most significant, there is a growing split between Eagle
owner Jeffrey Lurie and HC Reid.  The clearest evidence of that split was the issue of the starting QB between Mike
Vick and Kevin Kolb.  Reid named Kolb the starter for the 2010 season.  When he got hurt Vick became an exciting fan favorite.
But Reid announced that when Kolb recovered he would regain his starting spot.  Less than a week after that Vick
was named the starter for the rest of the season.  As the 2011 season finally got underway, Kolb was traded to the Cards and the spitting contest between the owner and coach over this issue was settled.

But there are other reasons that the relationship is cooling.  While Reid has led his team to multiple NFC Championships, he has gotten to only 1 Super Bowl which he lost.  While some blame the talent and tendency of long time QB McNabb to perform under pressure, others say that Reid was outcoached by the opponent.

To try and get over Lurie has gone all in this season.  As I was the first to report on my radio show before the lockout was over, he committed to spend the money on UFA QB Vick, all pro CB Nnamdi Asomugha,  WRs Sinorice Moss and ex-Giant Steve Smith, RB Ronnie Brown, DL Jason Babin and Cullen Jenkins, TE Donald Lee  and backup QB Vince Young.  The feeling in Philly is that now Reid has all the toys he needs to win it all.
But it takes a lot more than talent to win in the NFL.  It also requires teamwork.  It is clear that there is a team chemistry
issue with the Eagles.  Now the team is 1-3 with a very tough game tomorrow at 3-1 Buffalo.

But there is another reason that coaches’ lose their jobs after 10 years or so that is unique to pro football.
In high school and college ball, every year a new group of players comes into the program and the oldest guys
leave.  That keeps the coach’s messages and techniques relatively fresh due to the turnover.  However, in the NFL key players often stay
for 8 or more years.  Even the best coach can lose the ear and the heart of long term players after a while.  Even Bill Parcells  admitted that 10 years is about the limit of how long a coach in the NFL can be effective.   Reid has been the Eagles HC for 13 seasons.

So unless the Birds turn things around and get to a Super Bowl don’t be surprised if Reid is not the HC in 2012.

That is what I think.
Tell us what you think.

Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color
on radio for
college football and basketball and has scouted talent.

He is a senior writer for and edits http://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on http://www.eBooks-Library.com/Contemporary/ and a non-fiction work at http://www.merriam-press.com/.

He edits http://fryingpanpolitics.org/.

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The Biggest Questions For the 2011 Fantasy Football Season

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It looks like the new collective bargaining agreement is going into effect sometime today (7/25/2011) and we should start seeing action all over the pro football realm. This means the 25 million or so fantasy football players can breathe a collective sigh of relief. Fantasy football will be played, trades will be made, and trophies will be be won. There is a controversial question that has been hotly debated over the past few months, really since the end of last years fantasy season. Should Michael Vick not only be the #1 quarterback drafted but the #1 overall pick? There are millions of fantasy owners on both sides of the fence. Is there a right answer. I for one am not quite sure there is, but let’s see if we can find it.

Argument(s) For Vick Being The #1 Overall Pick

The main argument for Vick being the #1 overall pick is that he is the most unique and dynamic player in fantasy football. When that fantasy football draft board goes up should he be the #1 pick? Here is what proponents say about that question.

Vick is a risk/reward player but the reward far outweighs the risk. Vick in addition to being dynamic is by far the most dangerous dual threat in the league. He is in a high powered offense where he can pass to any number of highly skilled options. If needs be he can take off and run if things break down. He is as dangerous a player on the field as there ever has been and if you need any proof just go back and look at the numbers last year against Washington and the New York Giants. Only Vick can put up these types of numbers. Sure a running back here and there rushes for 200 yards and 3 scores like Arian Foster did last year but Vick can put up 333 yards passing with 4 passing touchdowns and 80 yards rushing with 2 rushing tds like he did on Monday night against Washington. That’s at least 49 fantasy points in a standard league. Oh well that’s just one week he didn’t do that every week. No he didn’t but Vick did average a ridiculous 27 points a game. The next closest QB was Aaron Rodgers and he averaged right at 20. In standard leagues when Vick played a full game he only once scored “Below” 20 points and that was a 19 point outing against the Giants. The next time he played the Giants he scored 38. Proponents will argue there is no other player that has even close to this type of potential for scoring and anyone would be out of their mind not to draft him first. He is by far the best option to win you multiple weeks by himself and is probably the safest bet to provide you with double digit fantasy points week in and week out. It’s a no-brainer ladies and gentleman, Vick should be the first pick.

Arguments Against Vick Being the #1 Overall Pick

If you want to win your league’s fantasy football trophy, opponents will argue drafting Vick #1 overall would not be a wise choice. Here is what arguments are against Vick going #1 overall.

Fantasy is all about minimizing risk, especially with the first pick. Vick is much to risky of a pick to take first overall. Especially since you only need to start one qb in standard leagues and your next pick in a 10 man league isn’t until pick 20. Take a safe running back instead and wait on a qb. You can likely get Tom Brady or Peyton Manning with your next pick if you wait. Vick has only really had one other season similar to last years, and that was way back in 2002. Brady and Manning have been consistent for a decade. Vick in 2002 still scored less points than he did in 10′ and played 15 games where-as last year he played 12. Last year was an anomaly and not likely to be repeated. He had 9 rushing tds last year and 8 in 2002. The next 15 game season for Vick was 2004 and he only had 3 rushing tds. It’s hard to repeat that type of rushing td performance from year to year, even if you are Michael Vick. In 2003 after the big 02′ season he only played 5 games because of injury. Speaking of injury this is the next argument. Vick is one of the most dangerous weapons on the field, but also one of the most dangerous options to have as your quarterback due to injury. He only played in 12 games last year and took a large # of hits. He no longer is in his 20’s and the hits take a heavier toll in their 30s. If you look at his last 5 or 6 games defenses started blitzing him relentlessly and Vick took a beating. He had to sit out week 17 as a result and really didn’t look in perfect health against the Packers in the wild card round. His style is too dangerous, and injury is too big a concern. If defenses decide from day 1 the only way to stop him is to blitz him, and hit him, until they crack his armor (or worse ribs), then he is going to take a beating. Do you want to waste your #1 pick on a player that will likely miss games due to injury? Take A.P. instead and thank us for it later.

I could keep going with arguments for both sides but these are the main arguments that each side has. One of the great things about fantasy football is that there are arguments like this to be had. Truth is nobody knows the right answer until the season is complete. Vick will either be a fantasy juggernaut and help multiple teams win their championships, he will come back down to earth and score closer to his peers, or he will take a beating, be injured half of the year and be a nightmare for owners who drafted him first. If you really want him and you have the first pick your only option is to take him because he won’t be there when it’s your turn again.

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What should the NFL do with Mikey Vick?

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Michael Vick was released from prison today to spend the next couple of months of his sentence under house arrest. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is going to have to make a decision about QB Michael Vick’s return to the NFL before too long. The questions are how do you make the decision and what should that decision be.

How will the Commish make the decision: We are likely to hear a lot in the next few days about the difference between a right to play in the NFL vs. the privilege of playing in the league. Dictionary.com defines a right as that which is due to anyone by just claim, legal guarantees, moral principles, etc. It defines a privilege as a right, immunity, or benefit enjoyed only by a person beyond the advantages of most.

So, is playing in the NFL a right or a privilege? High school players earn college scholarships with a combination of their preparation, their play on the field and work in the classroom. Anyone that has ever tried to win a scholarship of any kind knows that it must be earned.

Every player in the NFL has worked his entire life to get to the point that he could earn a roster spot. No roster spot is given to a player—he earns it every year. When he is no longer able to earn a roster spot, he is cut or traded. There are no gifts in the NFL—it’s Big Boy football.

In my opinion, playing in the NFL is not a privilege, it is a right that is earned through hard work. But rights can be taken away. A convicted felon forfeits the right to vote, or at least is supposed to, as a part of the punishment for violating the law. Vick is a felon and I believe he has forfeited his right to play.

What should the decision be? I think that Commissioner Goodell should not reinstate Vick but allow him to sign with a team and practice this season. That will give Goodell time to see if Vick has changed his lifestyle or not. Of course Vick has had a lot of help changing his lifestyle. The combination of fines and lawsuit judgments along with attorney costs have eliminated all Vick’s prior earnings. His paycheck from his interim job as a construction worker will not begin to meet his financial obligations to his debt holders.

Vick needs the money a return to the NFL could allow him to earn. If he is a good citizen during training camp, Goodell should let him back in the league. If not, he will go the way of Adam “don’t call me Pacman” Jones. But there is a problem with this scenario—Vick just isn’t that good a QB!

Vick started for 4 full seasons in the NFL with the Falcons and started parts of 2 other seasons. He has never had a completion rate above the 56.4% he had in 2004. 62-65 percent is a must for an NFL team to have success offensively. His highest QB rating was 81.6 in 2002. That is a minimum rating for anyone who is considered starting quality in the league.

He was selected to go to the pro bowl but it was at a time when there just were no other choices in the NFC. At best, he struggled to get to a minimal level of QB skills when he was practicing everyday. Now he has been a guest of the federal government for 2 years with no practice at all.

If Goodell allows Vick to explore his NFL options, I believe very few teams will be interested in signing him. The best any team could hope for from Vick is that he could be a slash type player and wildcat QB for a few plays a game. I believe he will not be successful and likely would not even make the final roster of a team. In that case, he will fade away from the public view and sports talk radio. That would be the best thing for the NFL, the Falcons, and dog lovers everywhere.

The only good Vick is one out of the NFL and out of the public view.

That’s what I think. Tell me what you think.

Bill Smith is a former coach of several semi-pro teams, has officiated both football and basketball, done color on radio for college football and basketball and has scouted talent. He is a senior writer for and edits http://fryingpansports.com. He has also published several novels on and edits .

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